DC Alliance IG- SUPERFRIENDS - 2016 Durham regionals winner

My whole family divorced me after I played this deck against them. Thank you Baltimore superfriends for giving me my freedom back!

People already hate me. I have nothing to lose, nor live for.

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You folks took a toxic idea and then dipped a rusty blade into it.

This deck can lose if the runner makes a power play in the first 3 turns or so (siphon-> Keyhole, Indexing into 2 agendas), otherwise they are up shit creek. Well done. Having 6 ICE that keep Whiz out of archives is super key!

I see no Psychic Field in your list. How did you deal with runners checking every remote aggressively? Were the two Chronos Project enough to deal with Deus X and other recursion?

You play in your version comparably lot of ice. How did you place it?

We tried Psychic Fields, they didn't work because 1) you didn't really have the money to spend on them early, 2) against the matchup where you really want to discourage that, Whizzard, IHW means that they're unlikely to lose many valuable cards and they'll go even deeper into their deck.

The best way to keep them away from your remotes is to keep cards facedown in archives and ICE your most powerful asset in the matchup.

They laughed at me when I said techstartup for goodcards.

Then they laughed at me when I said to slow roll the ronin.

WHO'S LAUGHING NOW SLACK!?

I'm not sure I see the need for Ronin aside from just finishing the game faster. I think I'd rather have a 2nd pavilion.

Yeah, another Pavilion would be even more consistent. I love Ronin to death, but I'm not sure it's really worth it here since the deck doesn't need it.

The Ronin is a necessity in a tournament to close out games against slow opponents, particularly in the elimination. As far as a second Genetics Pavilion, completely unneeded since you have Tech Startup to tutor it on demand.

What is your first target for tech startup? Turtles or the city hall?

Really depends on setup. Sometimes I have a lot of installs in hand, and I want turtlebacks to get real money. Usually it's city hall, because the Mumba temples you get will let you rez your ice. You really only need real credits to trigger snares, or rez multiple ice on a heavily defended server late game.

This decklist got 1st and also 3rd place at Durham regionals out of 56 people. It's a good deck to make friend.

In pre-regionals testing I saw grown men with tears streaming down their cheeks. As a result in an upcoming friendly team tournament in the local DC area, it was decided it would be best to ban Museum of History (aka museum of sadness). This tournament is in a public place and we don't want people's first impression of the game to see a seen of mass depression.

@dashakan how do you fair against Anarchs with Archives interface?

I don't worry about Archives Interface. It is too expensive, and too slow. Just double ice archives and you are fine, a third ice if you feel you need it. Losing a couple cards won't make you lose. You can not ice HQ usually vs Anarch, you have plenty to put on archives.

Guys this deck is just unreal. Every game with it feels so strong and I never feel like I'm out of control of the board state. Any advice for playing against it? Az

@ThisIsAzrael Keep constant pressure on the corp. IG relies on you being paranoid to make runs since they cannot win by scoring. Attack centrals, Siphon them, and don't let them build up their board.

@ThisIsAzrael I've Beaten 5 IG in a row on Jinteki.net with Whizz, 2 Employee Strike, 2 Same Old Thing, 1 Film Critic and 1 Scrubber in place of Archives Interface. Even with Cerebral Static, IG is a piece of cake when whizz trash her board with Strike online.

If you're playing Scrubber in Whizzard, than you're giving up a lot of win% against other decks, just to improve an already great matchup.

This deck does not play Hedge Fund anymore, compared to the original Bigboy version. This means that you can control it better in the early game. Deny them money. Trash Temples and Turtlebacks first. Don't be afraid of Archives, they don't have 3 Shocks in there by turn 3 usually. Also don't neglect HQ. Probably there are some agendas stashed there, since most people concentrate on RnD and Archives.

After a while, switch from controlling the money to controlling the recursion. And set up some RnD multiaccess.

This deck is obviously good, but against a Runner who knows what the plan is and trashes the important stuff accordingly, it can never finish the game in a decent amount of time in my experience.

Tried the deck yesterday and it's silly. Well done. :)

Why the fetal? You can't score it, and it doesn't work from archives, so discarding it seems bad.

It works during R&D digs late game, which is most runner's only chance at victory. As you point out, I cannot score it, so it is no worse in archives or anywhere else than any other 2 pointer, and better in R&D and HQ.

How do you even score with this deck? What's stopping the runner from dropping an employee strike for Bio-Ethics and Museums and just running anything you advance?

Have you considered upping Heritage Committee to 2x? It's so insanely strong with MCH. I would consider Interns or Diversified Portfolio to cut for it. Also, how much better is Turtlebacks than PAD Campaign? Having PAD out face-down for a turn is nice to keep them guessing on remote installs, and unconditional drip is nice for flexibility.

Regardless, this deck is what I'm really afraid of as a runner. The question is how far to go in teching vs it. So ironic that asset spam would become MORE prevalent after Whizzard started dominating the meta.

@junkmail You don't score agendas, unless you just install a Chronos and sneak it out for the effect. This is a pure kill deck. I did not score one point, even a Chronos, the entire tournament. The runner can trash the Bio-Ethics and Museums, but the other Museums will shuffle them in, or Jackson will and City Hall puts all the Museums back out in one turn. The runner cannot keep with that rate of trashing.

@EnderA We had PAD in at various stages during testing, and it is just always worse than Turtlebacks. Once you have money with this deck, you have it as it is only using the money for Psi games and Snares, or rezzing multiple ICE on a deep run late game. The diversified is very good as it helps you recover from Account Siphon or Vamp, or just to get up and rolling early. You typically only need to play it once per game, but if you need it again just shuffle it in and tutor it with Heritage.

As far as 2 Heritage, I have seen people trying this, and I don't really find it necessary. Playing Heritage once per turn is usually plenty, and a lot of times I only have 2 Museums going (one in the deck as an out if a Heritage looks bad) so I want to shuffle in Heritage + something else, not 2 Heritage. I doubt I would play 2 Heritage in many turns, and if I want to draw I will just Heritage, then click Jackson.

This is why I'm so excited for the Slums resource. Removes cards from the game while not triggering Hostile Infrastructure. I love IG, but it will die to that card.

Swapped Interns(shit) for Caprice. Despite my 'bad play', took 2nd in 58 person WI Regional. Never went to time.

Great deck.

@spags All flat lines? Interns is good!

I'm a fairly new player who is basically playing older cards. Last night at a meetup I played against this. The other player warned me about it before hand but I said I wanted to play against him anyway just to see what it was all about. The game was the most boring game I've ever played. I saw one agenda he about about 20 remotes that all cost too much to trash. It was just me watching him play cards while I clicked for credits most turns so I could eventually make a run. Just awful to play against.

@cusegoyle I hear you. A lot of good decks are hard to deal with with a limited pool of cards, but IG biolock is arguably worse than Dumblefork to face, due to its specific intention of building up a massive board state to kill you. It's probably closest to DLR (Data Leak Reversal) in terms of interactivity.

There are a lot of cards that can help, but no single card will win you the matchup. Even with good countermeasures you'll need to correctly judge when to run archives, when/what to trash, and whether you want to try to win fast or win the attrition game.

Since winning the attrition game is probably harder to execute, I would suggest focusing on stealing agendas as fast as possible, which probably means focusing on pounding R&D. R&D Interface or Medium are good cards for that, and Film Critic will help you steal The Future Perfects. Beware Fetal AI, Snare!, and Shock!. Also note that they are unlikely to play any agendas other than Chronos Project.

I don't mind playing against IG on Jnet, it's almost like a game of solitaire, solve the puzzle, how to crack the nut.

Most Shapers run at least 2x R&D Interface and 1 Film Critic. Bump that up to 2x Film Critic to have a chance. You NEED to snag those FP's and Fetal's. 1 or 2 Employee Strike is optional but helps a little too, play it on the turn you want to trash three key assets. ES is also just good against most corps in general, so it's not a wasted slot.

For Criminal, just slot the 1x Film Critic and a Hostage. The Hostage can also get PolOp or Kati if you have your Critic out.

That's it really, if you get Film Critic out, it's often a very quick win. At least from what I have played.

oh. Yay. Another mumba/museum/asset spam deck. Never seen one of those. I can only imagine what tireless efforts were put into designing such an amazingly synergistic pile of cards.

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In order to get some more speed for the kill / get trashed cards out of archive and into play faster, would it be advisable to run -2 chronos +2 house of knives and -1 cerebral static +1 interns? (considered -2+2 of the cerebral and interns, but feel like you still need something in there for whizz/noise)

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